A recent article in the New York Post has sent shockwaves through much of the Islanders fanbase, after claiming that “a source” with knowledge of the situation has suggested that Anschutz Entertainment Group see the current agreement for the Islanders to play at Barclays Center as “too risky”. AEG is in the early stages of talks to purchase a majority stake in the Barclays Center, and according to “the source” AEG can opt out of the contract between Barclays Center and the New York Islanders in 2020.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that when a product is good, it will draw attention, and vice versa. The Islanders are now a good product, in fact to this point they’ve been one of the best products in the NHL, and with Long Island’s population of over seven million it hasn’t been hard to put 15,000+ fans in Nassau Coliseum. However, historically when the team has been bad, attendance drops significantly and to a horrifying point.
In fact, here are the spots in which the Islanders finished in attendance averages for every season 2004-05 lockout in order: 30th, 28th, 30th, 30th, 29th, 30th, 29th, 30th, 26th.
Obviously, attendance numbers are nowhere near exact and are often skewed by the teams, but it’s troubling to see how many years the Islanders have finished dead. ESPN also lists the Islanders towards the bottom of the league in attendance this year (27th), and despite a few sellouts puts their average percentage of seats filled at 85.6%
That said, when the team sells out the Coliseum and is winning, it’s an incredible barn to catch a game in.
(American) Thanksgiving Eve, a night when most college students are home and there isn’t generally much to do, gave us possibly the loudest and most enthusiastic regular season crowd that the Coliseum has seen in years, and with good reason. This team is damn good, and while Islanders fans are mostly riding high on the winning streaks and the first opportunity to see an actual contender in over 20 years, it’s a harsh reminder of the business end of sports when these reports come out.
Most would suggest that if the team had been good for the last ten years, then the fans would come. Like I mentioned earlier, not exactly rocket science. What’s unfortunate, and honestly painful, is that for years the team operated much like a small-market product would: field a low-budget team at a low-budget venue that creates an overall negative experience for the casual fan. It’s understandable that people stayed away, because despite having the money and capability to field a contender Charles Wang opted to run his business on the idea that it was safer to spend less and accept minimal gains (or none at all) than to spend more and try to maximize the product.
I have no knowledge of an early opt-out for #Isles or Barclays, but if they leave in 2020, where would they go?
— Arthur Staple (@StapeAthletic) December 1, 2014
Arthur Staple posed the most terrifying question of all: where would they go?
We all remember the “Kansas City” chants from visiting fans (Rangers fans) when the team was a consistent bottom feeder, before Tavares was given to Long Island by the hockey Gods to bring prosperity to a once proud franchise that had fallen on hard times. The Québécois who would show up to games in Nordiques sweaters. The empty seats that seemed to seal Nassau Coliseum’s fate. And then when the move to Brooklyn was announced, Islanders fans exhaled a half-hearted sigh of relief. The team would still be in New York, it would retain its identity, but would just be a bit further west (23 miles, to be exact if you take the Belt). It wasn’t ideal, but it’d have to do.
And now this. Though these are just rumors, and no one knows who this source is outside of the Post, it’s concerning. It’s uncertainty. Among Islanders fans I’ve spoken to about it, there’s a real feeling that we may have sat through years of a rebuild only to see the polished product torn from our hands like it’s Black Friday.
To get a grip on reality for a minute, despite AEG’s apparent wariness to house the Islanders we all know how Gary Bettman feels about relocating teams.
I’m sure that Bettman, who acts as if relocation is to be avoided unless an arena is burning to the ground and the city is helping fan the flames, will figure out a way to keep his hometown team in New York. Unfortunately, if the Barclays Center decides to oust the Islanders it seems that the Ratners have no intentions for their renovated Nassau Coliseum to be an NHL building. Reports on how many seats the new Coliseum will have range from 9,000 to 13,000, but at the moment it seems set in stone that it will not be a large enough facility for the Islanders.
So where do they go? Yes, it’ll become a complete non-issue if they start selling out Barclays Center, but what if they don’t? Obviously a new home will attract new fans, but what if it’s not enough to replace the Suffolk residents who can’t make the trip to Brooklyn and then some?
At least one man seems to have a plan, and he does have money…
I need to go to an @NYIslanders home game this season before the move to Brooklyn. Plus I would like to buy the team. I have money.
— player/coach (@CMPunk) December 3, 2014
Is it more likely they move back to LI or out of state? Because I have firmly believed that this Barclay’s is a joke and a provisional move as their lease was running out on NVMC. Answers?
“What a lot of people are forgetting is the history of the NY Islanders. No one is moving that history to another state so to talk like that is totally absurd. The 80-83 Islanders were the greatest NHL team that ever took the ice bar none. No one was better.(Go ahead and bring up Montreal and we’ll talk about how many teams were in the league then and how every good Canadian player wanted to play for them.) Did A fan really bring up the Hartford Whalers?”
The less teams you have the better the product and talent. Only the elite players made the Original 6. More teams = lower quality, regardless of quantity.
I think BD is probably right. wang called this lease “iron clad”. He wouldn’t have done that if there was a unilateral out-clause after five years favoring one party. The isles aren’t going to opt out or consent to void the lease if they are making money and/or have nowhere else to play
What a lot of people are forgetting is the history of the NY Islanders. No one is moving that history to another state so to talk like that is totally absurd. The 80-83 Islanders were the greatest NHL team that ever took the ice bar none. No one was better.(Go ahead and bring up Montreal and we’ll talk about how many teams were in the league then and how every good Canadian player wanted to play for them.) Did A fan really bring up the Hartford Whalers?
I’ve said it for years the Islanders would end up in Las Vegas. I’m a huge Islander fan living in Las Vegas. With the new arena being built by MGM behind the Monte Carlo and due to open in 2017…this is all starting to make sense. I’d rather see the Islander stay on Long Island forever, but if they don’t I know Las Vegas would embrace them if they come.
14,000 seats is the proposals that I’ve Seen. I’ve never seen the NHL league minimum seating requirement anywhere. I believe there at least one other team with and arena that small. In the end I believe Ratner might have placed that addendum into the agreement, since he is in charge of the NVMC rebuild, and will never be ablessed to get another professional team besides the islander farm team there. Without a major tenet the property is a loser.
“To get a grip on reality . . . . we all know how Gary Bettman feels about relocating teams.”
The author of this article thinks that Gary Bettman has feelings? Ha! That’s too funny.
Move them to Las Vegas. We would love to have them
Barclays only can opt out if the isles agree. Barclays cannot just choose it themselves and nullify the contract. And with $50 million guaranteed each season thanks to their contract with Barclays, why would they ever opt out? This is a non-story bc a NY Post unnamed source only told half the info … Or didn’t know it had to be mutual. Good write-up. Cheers, BD
move to quebec.
Gary Bettman says” NHL DON’T LEAVE CITIES”, No he has the owners and the coaches and the cities officials to destroy teams first, and then move them to other states!!
Hence forth THE HARTFORD WHALERS is proof of what they all did in 1991, shafting one of the greatest players ever Ron Francis of his Captain seed and then trading him and all the other good players. Then 1995 they used the accuse attends was down not enough fan base! WTF really! F’en liars!
Then Gary Bettman has the ordasity to say that Carolina Hurricanes was the best move he had ever seen, when they won the Stanley cup!
Then Gary Bettman single handy destroyed our team and our state! We had more than enough fans and a huge fan base. Get your marketing strategies inline!
Your state was ruined because of a hockey team? Must not have been very good to begin with then.
Considering the fact that they have the second smallest arena in the league if they sold out every game they probably wouldn’t even crack the the top 25 in attendance.
7 million people in long island. Editor are you stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island
LI includes Queens and Brooklyn
Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island. Are YOU stupid??
I did include Brooklyn and Queens, which are considered Long Island when the census is taken. The argument against it from a hockey standpoint is that those are predominately Rangers territories, but there’s quite a large population of Islanders fans in Queens and Brooklyn (especially with how many young people from Nassau and Suffolk are now living there).
You could exclude Queens and Brooklyn if you want, but you would exclude a large portion of the Islanders fanbase if you do that.
Long Island, the NHL and the new owners need to put their heads together and build a new stadium in the parking lot next to NVMC on Long Island and start asap, so after 2-3 years of the Barclays disaster – which it will be because you cannot see the ice from a large portion of the seats – will not be a viable, long-term answer. How Bettman can continue to sit on his hands and allow this fiasco to continue to linger in his hometown right under his nose is just astounding. I’d be willing to personally intervene and help bring the parties together to engage in a dialogue to construct a modern facility next to NVMC, or at worst, in Flushing near Citifield, which would be an excellent, perhaps even superior alternative given its greater public transportation methods. Come on Bettman, step up here…
You are obviously not from Long Island.
says the Rangers fan…